And I'd say that's enough for it to at least be C rank. Web. S-rank is, for me, an exclusive club for game-breakers, and the Starly line doesn't do enough to fall into that category beyond being an instant win button v Gardenia and one of the few early-game 'mons in Sinnoh that can contribute to your team throughout the whole game provided they stay alive (which the Starly line has a tough time doing pretty much from when you hit the mid-game). Lucario is a bipedal, canine-like Pokmon with predominantly blue and black fur. I've used the line twice, once on Diamond (I went through two Sinnoh test runs on Diamond and Pearl, big mistake) and once on Platinum, and it died in the mid-game on both occasions. Web. List of Contents Swampert Type and Abilities Swampert Base Stats. I recently ran another run of Platinum, and the first thing I did was catch a Starly and call it &x27;UUBL&x27;. It has a permanent ladder on Pokmon Showdown. BDSP SMOGON TIERING PREDICTIONS of pokemon from gens 1 through 4 (explanation in comments) comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment xoopmax Additional comment actions Venomoth has been RUBL since gen 5, i cant imagine it droppjng to PU when there is a smaller pokedex and (possibly) heavy-duty boots. . Newsletters >. It's a ghost type that loses to only 1 spinner (Starmie). BDSP SMOGON TIERING PREDICTIONS of pokemon from gens 1 through 4 (explanation in comments) comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment xoopmax Additional comment actions Venomoth has been RUBL since gen 5, i cant imagine it droppjng to PU when there is a smaller pokedex and (possibly) heavy-duty boots. Also you forgot to add executtor and victrebeel in B- rank. Web. Also I don't know which pokemons you consider top 15 but here is a very interesting calc i found on one of the top UU threats. Web. I'm glad to see Lickilicky in A too, as it doesn't tend to get the respect that it deserves. I agree with what you say, but it's not S. Even in Umbra's last post, he brought a banded mon that has severe prediction issues and that barely beats one of the "Offensive" stuff I mentioned. Also, sun should be somewhere on this list (until unless all of you are considering tiering action against sun, and are preemptively leaving it off the VR, in which case I want to hear why Uxie should be banned). Web. Chople Berry. Web. Fight me. Landorus-T can also be used on hyper offense teams with dual screens support from Pokemon like Tapu Koko and Regieleki. Weaknesses Water (2), Ice (4) Held Item Toxic Orb. RULES. Weaknesses Water (2), Ice (4) Held Item Toxic Orb. I recently ran another run of Platinum, and the first thing I did was catch a Starly and call it &x27;UUBL&x27;. . First of all i agree to exeggutor and victrebell being added and with mandibuzz and mismagius going up and down respectively. S TIER The Best Pokemon to use in Pokemon Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl. You are using an out of date browser. 1415 Gliscor. Smeargle These Pokemon require less support than most others to be used effectively and have few flaws that can easily be compensated for when compared to their positive traits. Dragon Dance U-Turn. Web. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Also, althoughRotom H is dope, its not a S mon, I think A+ is fine. 252+ SpA Choice Specs Rotom-Heat Overheat vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Scrafty: 286-337 (105.5 - 124.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO ----- Vire MEMBRO do Canal ----- httpswww.youtube.comchannelUC34bJQhnWeq2UD8DhvD1bhAjoin ----- LEIA A DESC. It possesses a short, round spike on the back of each forepaw, in addition to a third on its chest. Introduction Latios was the premier offensive Pokmon throughout its stay in BDSP OU. ago. -Lanturn offers a rotom check and being annoying in general.. but that doesnt justify A+.. it still can be exploited and doesnt wall a bunch of special defensive threats that exist in the tier. C Rank:Reserved for Pokemon that are mediocre in the UU metagame, but have just as many notable flaws that prevent them from being effective. It resides in the C+ tier in OU's Viability rankings. . Maybe, but I think people under appreciate how GOOD it is to have a base speed higher than 100. Their use has low risk involved and high reward exerted. 84. level 2. That has access to priority taunt allowing it to block every defog user in the game (except Murkrow but like thats Murkrow). A Rank:Reserved for Pokemon that are fantastic in the UU metagame, and can sweep, support, or wall significant portions of the metagame. The pokemon tier list below consists of the Sinnoh Pokedex, these pokemon you will be able to catch in your play through of the game. Web. Keep in mind NEW Pokemon will begin to appear in the Wild and The Grand Underground after you have obtained the National Dex. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Smogon University SmogonU Zero to hero just like that Palafin is a real glow up story of a little dolphin that only wanted to become a 650 BST beast of Pokmon and destroy any and all opposition You can check out more discussion in our Uncharted Territory forum smogon.comforumsforums 11 27 493 Show this thread. All the info is here (in Spanish) Table of Contents Tournament-oriented teams Newer cool teams. This favoratism towards balance has all but left archetypes like BO in the dust, but there are actually a few Pokemon that can be of great assistance when it comes to breaking these cores and even their offensive pivots like Flygon (<3). Rotom-heat is a monster in UU, with specs this mon can destroy everything(maybe): 252+ SpA Choice Specs Rotom-Heat Overheat vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Bronzong: 420-494 (124.2 - 146.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO PokeMMO UU Viability Ranking S Rank : Reserved for Pokemon that are the pinnacle of the UU metagame. You must log in or register to reply here. which is kinda the worst type of team to run right now but okaaaay really? I'd say one of the A-ranks. With all that being said, heracross is still a great pokemon, and it does it's job well at being able to force switches and sacks, but it has its flaws, most notably being it doesn't like to switch in often if hazardsare on the field, because the combination of flame orb and hazards adds up after a couple switches.. Ontop of all that, UU is pretty hyper offensive right now, with sun teams/screen teams running wild, there isa lot of priority and faster pokemon floating around that make it difficult to utilize it to its full ability. Oh also, reminder to not assume Home will allow transfers into BDSP- all official statements about Home connectivity thus far have only mentioned transferring from BDSP to Home. No Sceptile already had legitimate success on it's own before the Heracross ban that I thought it was kinda silly that we didn't rank it before. Single use. Coba/Chople is heavily underutilized on the dd set allowing it to take advantage of mons like Crobat, not to mention that while drain punch in nice for recovery it can stillHJK muscle through more tankier mons which helps it get out of control with moxie boosts. ----- Vire MEMBRO do Canal ----- httpswww.youtube.comchannelUC34bJQhnWeq2UD8DhvD1bhAjoin ----- LEIA A DESC. Sorry it took so long for an update, I will update the OP at some point with the following changes: B rank to A- DruddigonB rank to A- Sigilyph, Removed Kabutops, Mandibuzz and Gastrodon, Gotta say that i put meta in A+ with heavy heart.. Leftovers. Flygon&x27;s physical attack is higher than it&x27;s special, and it also has access to Dragon Dance, which is one of the best moves in the game. Def stats. Question: I haven't played much BDSP yet, but I used to play DPP on Shoddy back in the day. It was already deemed too strong once, prompting the first suspect test in BDSP OU that eventually resulted in a close No Ban vote. BDSP - 2022 BDSP Circuit Playoffs - Semifinals Smogon Forums. BDSP UU is home to Pokemon that don't recieve consistent enough usage to be considered OverUsed. I don't know if this is only my opinion, but I don't know if Flygon is head-and-shoulders the best Pokemon in the tier. Froslass is also slightly faster, but all of the Fire-types mentioned should be winning that match up regardless. Web. Item. Landorus-T can also be used on hyper offense teams with dual screens support from Pokemon like Tapu Koko and Regieleki. Personally i could say that yes, maybe it is B tier and not B-. When its mouth is open, two pairs of pointed teeth, one in the upper jaw and one in the lower, can be seen. Happy posting Salty3345 Dec 8, 2021 30. Pokemon in this rank have very few flaws that are patched up by numerous positive traits. Welcome to the BDSP UU Viability Ranking thread. A Speed-boosting nature will also need to come at the detriment of a defensive stat as Rapidash wants both attacking stats, further reducing its lacklustre bulk. Don't flame, don't spam, and respect others' opinions. A viability thread has as purpose to put Pokmon into 'ranks', by lack of a better term. ----- Vire MEMBRO do Canal ----- httpswww.youtube.comchannelUC34bJQhnWeq2UD8DhvD1bhAjoin ----- LEIA A DESC. Its base 105 with EVs and training for the champion vs base 120 with neutral nature and no EVs available. -Dusclops while a very good defensive wall in this current meta of volt turn and wallbreakers struggles to fullfill its role because without reliable recovery apart from rest which makes it a set up bait struggles to maintain its health throughout the game and thats why B tier is justified. competitive stats, moves, terastalize types, movesets, natures, abilities, and EV spreads for undefined, Dragapult. Lucario is a bipedal, canine-like Pokmon with predominantly blue and black fur. xXBlu3BreathXx Bisharp can easily put pressure on defog users and boost with Swords Dance to +4 the next turn, it can be extremely powerful if this is pulled off which usually resorts in Defog to be used more sparingly. Gliscor might not seem like a natural staller, but trainers can definitely pull it off. For more information, please see our At the end of every turn, holder restores 116 of its max HP. Rapidash doesn't outspeed Alakazam unless you overlevel. It lowers the power of Water-type moves. When its mouth is open, two pairs of pointed teeth, one in the upper jaw and one in the lower, can be seen. Sorry for any confusion. 3, Utility: its undeniable that Starmie is the best spinner in the game. Single use. Unrelated discussion such as talk of (potential) suspects and unproductive one liners that do not greatly contribute to discussion will be deleted. It's base 105 speed v base 120. Coverage-wise, Fighting / Rock / Ground / Filler is pretty much everything it needs. Introduction Latios was the premier offensive Pokmon throughout its stay in BDSP OU. this thread is dead lmao also gengar is banned take them off the viability ranking now plz, This is both a nom and also just me talking about a Pokemon I like using and think more people should use, [Please excuse our look during the redesign :)], +2 252 SpA Life Orb Gengar Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Blissey: 523-616 (73.2 - 86.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO. Just wanna clarify that BDSP UU is currently in Alpha, meaning nothing will be banned until January. Hi, i would like to nominate Onix to D tier. As a council, we. I disagree, yes it's not the end all be all pokemon and I certainly don't think it deserves to be B/B+ rank like the guy above me. and our About JTMF; Frequently Given Answers; Cozy Camper Trailers; Sponsors & Friends. like tran couldn't care less about item it can actually run anything other than lefties, like pherb or charcoal and you're getting roasted, for example, if you knock them, you don't prevent any sort of passive action from them (rocks, twave, heal); if you taunt, you're getting magmastormed or moonblasted in the face and either way it's a good trade depending on the situation, im still not sure what you're gonna do when you're done knocking items but w/e arguably something like scizor gets momentum better, and honestly most of the time you can even get away with a burned scizor if all it needs to do is to grab momentum, we literally have a shedstall in the samples that also is a testimony of how Shedinja beats common Pokmon like Latios, Scizor, Breloom, Azumarill, Manaphy and the list can go on and on and I already said more than what Sableye currently *CHECKS*, because Sableye can't enter on ANYTHING. I've never used the line on a nuzlocke run and it performed above my expectations. Their use has low risk involved and high reward exerted. The meta being a lot slower makes its 97 Base Speed really good, and it hits even harder than Clef does with the LO set. While all non-Uber Pokmon can be used in OU, only those Pokmon that make up at least 4. 1415 Gliscor. SS OU Viability Ranking Update: 8/25/2021 . No denying that. 252+ SpA Choice Specs Rotom-Heat Overheat vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Forretress: 1272-1500 (359.3 - 423.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO, Can you calc with sun? Lucario is a bipedal, canine-like Pokmon with predominantly blue and black fur. And that's if it survives long enough to evolve in the first place. Only Infernape is faster, and again, this means you can, as already mentioned, outrun things like Alakazam, Garchomp, and Froslass, which can MASSIVELY reduce casualties by removing these Pokmon before they can either set up too much evasion in the case of Fross (and Flame Wheel can dethaw the user, removing one way for the fight to be lost), or before significant damage can be inflicted via high attack and wide coverage in the case of Zam and Chomp. haha yes. This metagame is led by Kaede and a council of experienced players. Web. I can assure you that the VR Council already knows the obvious qualities and we are far more interested in understanding why you believe it has increased or decreased in viability. Again, please keep discussion civil. ----- Vire MEMBRO do Canal ----- httpswww.youtube.comchannelUC34bJQhnWeq2UD8DhvD1bhAjoin ----- LEIA A DESC. This thread will be the hub for all resources and discussions, including Viability Rankings, suspect tests, quickbans and general conversation about the format as it develops. It has red eyes, a long snout, and ears. can i ask why bibarel is A rank? Web. Discussion is encouraged and remember that you are always entitled to your opinion but forget not to be respectful to other community members. Even a 0IV Rapidash can meet this with some dedicated training, and a rapidash with at least 19IV speed can get it by just dumping 10 or fewer Carbos on. Nature Adamant Jolly. this is already too long. Web. 252+ Atk Heracross Night Slash vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Jellicent: 78-92 (37.8 - 44.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery///252+ Atk Heracross Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 168 Def Bronzong: 84-100 (48.2 - 57.4%) -- 51.6% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery////252+ AtkHeracross Close Combat vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Vaporeon: 108-127 (45.7 - 53.8%) -- 3.9% chance to 2HKO after Leftovers recovery, With that being said, you can still outstall it with jelli/vaporeon, Flame orb set- This set, is like any other heracross, if brought in correctly will force a switch, but you get the added bonus of potentially getting a swords dance off. EV&x27;s 252 Atk, 252 Spe, 4 Def Sp. Web. . Earthquake. About Rotom, yeah, you're probably right. Team . I actually prefer Uxie as a support mon over Mew because of Uxie's greater bulk (though Mew will get moves that Uxie doesn't, like Will O' Wisp). Happy posting Salty3345 Dec 8, 2021 30. National Dex is a unique format that strives to make Galar mechanics work with every single Pokmon, including those that have been cut from the Pokdex. ----- Vire MEMBRO do Canal ----- httpswww.youtube.comchannelUC34bJQhnWeq2UD8DhvD1bhAjoin ----- LEIA A DESC. Type GroundFlying. . Alright so I've looked through your comments and would like opinions on these potential changes: AddingExeggutor and Victreebel to B-rank. It doesnt seem to me that the 2 pokemons coldly stop metagross. This thread will be the hub for all resources and discussions, including Viability Rankings, suspect tests, quickbans and general conversation about the format as it develops. Web. RULES. Welcome to the BDSP OU Viability Ranking thread. Theinitial list bellow was made in collaboration with Umbramol. Maybe A- can be more representative. When new Pokemon, items, abilities, and/or anything else relevant to the BDSP OU metagame are released, please hold off on discussing the ranking of the new Pokemon or the rankings of Pokemon that are impacted by these developments until there is approval to discuss the matter by an BDSP Metagames Moderator in this thread. It fares pretty well against major threats (ie, Mars/Jupiter, Cyrus, Volkner), remaining extremely consistent and easy to train throughout the game. Pokemon in the C tier often require significant support to be effective. However, it has a decent niche on stall and balance teams as a good spinblocker, that can also block fog as well. i've never used one, mind, and if i have, it's always been as an hm mule lol. I would personally put it in the A-/B+ range. Chople Berry. When its mouth is open, two pairs of pointed teeth, one in the upper jaw and one in the lower, can be seen. Without rocks in the field andelectrode support I dont see scrafty being that good tbh. Keep in mind NEW Pokemon will begin to appear in the Wild and The Grand Underground after you have obtained the National Dex. Don&x27;t think UU has anything that can wall it. Not to mention its poor speed, pretty much every scarf mon outspeed it at +1. The world is ending. Item. Reply. Item. Expand on your opinion with actual analysis showing understanding of the metagame and perhaps bringing a unique perspective to the conversation. It possesses a short, round spike on the back of each forepaw, in addition to a third on its chest. BDSP UU is home to Pokemon that don&x27;t recieve consistent enough usage to be considered OverUsed. BDSP OU uses standard Smogon-wide Clauses. Those being jolly arcanine/crobat/alakazam/staraptor/typhlosion/timid yanmega/siglyph/timid rotom heat, I'm sure I'm forgetting some, but you get the point. Def. The UU Viability Rankings shows how well every UU-viable Pokmon fares in the UU tier. This score is an overall performance number from 0 to 100, where 100 is the best Pokemon in that league and category. Every Electric lost Hidden Power and Zapdos got straight up gutted. Weaknesses Water (2), Ice (4) Held Item Toxic Orb. In my experience it just dies too easily to be counted among true behemoths such as Gyarados, Snorlax and Technician Scizor. Speaking of Metagross. 252+ SpA Choice Specs Rotom-Heat Overheat vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Forretress: 1272-1500 (359.3 - 423.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO. If the Pokemon in this rank have any flaws, those flaws are thoroughly mitigated by their substantial strengths." These Pokemon include: Mega Abomsnow (UU=A-) Mega Steelix (UU=C) Tyrantrum (UU=B) Interesting that these particular 3 make the cut for RU's best. Now those are not great direct switch ins on heracross, however they all work well to revenge kill it, or at the very least make it switch out, something heracross does not like doing, even more so if there are hazards on the field. B Rank:Reserved for Pokemon that are great in the UU metagame. As for Metagross it can tank a large amount of the metagame and retaliate in return,it also has a plethora of sets it can run effectively: Coba/Chople is heavily underutilized on the dd set allowing it to take advantage of mons like Crobat, not to mention that while drain punch in nice for recovery it can stillHJK muscle through more tankier mons while helps it get out of control with moxie boosts.